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Christine Gautreaux 0:08
Let’s do this.
Shannon M. 0:08
Okay ladies, welcome to our podcast. I am Shannon Mitchell, a black female, millennial entrepreneur, the founder of Shiloh glow, a handmade shea butter company. I am a champion for your self care, business care and intentional wellness.
Christine Gautreaux 0:25
And I am Christine Gautreaux, a white social justice advocate and international speaker, coach and published author who helps you upgrade yourself and community care.
Shannon M. 0:35
Yes. And together, we are women connected in wisdom, a podcast grounded in the eight dimensions of wellness. Welcome, welcome to our show.
Christine Gautreaux 0:44
And we like to get together every week to have intentional conversations about wellness and health. And how do we do this in business, in life in relationships, and often we have special guests with us. But today is one of our summary shows. And so I’m kind of excited just hanging out with you today, my friend and figuring out what we’re chatting about.
Shannon M. 1:06
Yeah, chatting about a lot of everything, right? That’s usually what our conversations look like anyway. So it’s always good, though, to go back through the season and refresh on what we talked about recently, what was the most recent piece of information that I said I was going to implement that I may not have revisited again, you know, so I love
Christine Gautreaux 1:25
to talk about all eight dimensions. It’s an overview show, right? So because one of the things we know to be true, is this is a practice. This isn’t just a one and done, right, that when we practice the eight dimensions of wellness, when we practice the different pieces and components, we figure out what works for our own individual selves, right? Because you and I are very different. Our audience members, very different lots of different ages, ethnicities, backgrounds. So what one guests may recommend may not work for every person. So like, that’s part of what I love about our shows is does that work for me? Right, right. Yeah.
Shannon M. 2:08
Yeah. And just like we were talking about earlier, you know, it can be frustrating. Sometimes you you’re in a situation and you realizing something might not have turned out exactly how you thought it would be. But you only know that if you try it, you know, so I love getting the resources, trying new things, and then having the opportunity to fix it better to what works for you and the situation that you’re in. Right.
Christine Gautreaux 2:30
I’m thinking about our first guest this season. On episode 57 was Alison brill. She was talking about physical wellness and Allison was a health coach is a health coach. And we were talking about you know, some of the hard stuff about getting rid of processed sugar and really increasing our fruits and vegetables. I mean, things we all know right? Things we all know that I think it different seasons are harder than other seasons. But like right now is a great season for fresh veggies. And I was just out in California I was doing a gig out there with Sheila in Palm Springs, California. And who the produce out in California like we get ahead of romaine lettuce that was literally this tall she and like it was ridiculously awesome. So I think about fresh farmers markets like it’s that season, it’s about to start happening. Are you growing anything this year?
Shannon M. 3:36
No. So that is on my list of goals for 10 years. When I have more space and more time in the schedule. I would love to garden and be intentional about the things that I buy all the time. I might as well go ahead and grow those things. But no right now we’re growing this book.
Christine Gautreaux 3:52
I love it. Well, I was just thinking about you know, Allison, we did a link to hydroponic growing system I did is I’m still I’m still growing my salad on my countertop. Right and let me tell you what’s in my garden right now which every gardener listening will laugh at me. But I have an incredible patch of pumpkins happening right now. I had a pumpkin that rotted in my garden and got tilled up and I have planted zucchini squash, I have miracles. And I have the most beautiful patch of pumpkins coming up that I transplant because there’s one of my gardener friends was over this morning windy blue, Dr. Windy blue, who was a guest on our show. They just recently defended their dissertation. And so now we refer to them as Dr. Windy Blue was there and looked at my garden and said, you know you don’t have enough room for all. That’s why I’m trying to give you pumpkins.
Shannon M. 4:51
That is why that’s it. And that’s the thing I love about life is like you can you can always take lessons from one thing and apply it somewhere else you You know, if you don’t deal with situations, they end up seated. It’ll come up in a season when you might not expect it.
Christine Gautreaux 5:07
Sometimes it’s good. What? Too much of anything is too much of anything? Yeah, I probably got 50 pumpkin plants growing in this little one by one garden. You want a pumpkin?
Shannon M. 5:19
Let me think about it. What can you make with pumpkins? You know, I’m trying to expand this venue and stop eating the same thing. So we might have to look up some pumpkin recipes. All
Christine Gautreaux 5:26
right, yeah, I’m gonna have to transplant some and see if they come to fruit, right, they have huge vines. So they take up a lot of space is one of the things with pumpkins. But you make pumpkin pie, you can use it like a regular squash, you can do pumpkin seeds, like there’s a whole kind of it. But it’s not the best thing to grow in lack of space. So it might not be you know, I would love if any of our listeners are listening to put in the comments. What are you growing this season? Right? Shannon’s growing a book that women connected and wisdom book is coming in September, y’all, we’ll keep you posted as it’s coming. So excited. So episode 58 was our guest, we talked about disability awareness and social wellness with special guests, Jennifer, how out of True Tales by disability advocates is their podcast and new friend from Texas. That was a fun episode. And yeah, talking about how much we can learn. Right, yeah, and different resources in places.
Shannon M. 6:38
And for me the the biggest thing, and I don’t know if I can say the biggest thing, but one huge thing that stood out to me that we’ve been talking about on the show is how the category of being disabled as a category that anybody can get to no matter where they are in life. In the blink of an eye, you know, so I was signing up for benefits this past week. And it was talking about long term disability. And of course, initially, thankfully, me personally, I’m like, I don’t need that, you know, and I’m thinking that it won’t be relevant anytime soon is what I would hope but again, you never know when when you’re gonna need it. So, of course made sure that I had that and was thankful to not have to use it every day. But to think through those things and what it looks like. It’s definitely interesting. I remember talking about immersing myself in the conversation in that episode, right?
Christine Gautreaux 7:31
Well, since we aired that episode, one of my dear friends and colleagues, Heather Lee, who is a dancer herself, pull, did a knee tear, like one of those things that you know, you are out for months until you have surgery. And talking about it can happen in a blink of an eye. Right? And there are like when your your body says stop you stop. So I think that’s important. Yeah, that episode. Listeners if you haven’t had a chance to check out the show notes on that episode, there were some incredible resources about demystifying disability and what to know what to say. And how to be an ally. But Emily Ledoux was part of that thing. Oh, hello, Ursula. Yes, peace and patience. Oh, man. Isn’t that the truth? Needing that in, in all of this work as we talk about, well, this, how do we do this? Right? Doing it with peace and patience? Absolutely. So episode 59. We were talking about brave wellness was special guest Denise Alba. Do you remember that one? Yeah. Talking about emotional and mental wellness.
Shannon M. 8:56
Yeah, she has a yoga studio and trips. I think she had two more spots for the France trip. Right. And it was beautiful thinking about I was actually thinking about Denise in the store the other day, I always when I go grocery shopping, I do go to the farmers markets we always go to and looking at the different herbs and I love seeing different things from around the world. I’m like, Oh, I wonder what this does. I wonder what this does? And I thought about Denise and her Abba Letha and how she would probably know so that’s one of the things I look forward to do it like keeping a book of different natural remedies I can do because when we talk about physical wellness and immunity, the conversation has been vaccines or prescriptions and I’m more on the side of drinking water and preventative. So I’m going to start doing that for myself too.
Christine Gautreaux 9:47
Well, speaking of like keeping a list, right, you know, I am a huge like app fan. You know, I’m a techie so I like I was just curious about what is out there, and I just Googled it. And there are definitely some apps out there for herbs. So there’s one called herb list. It’s a National Library of Medicine, NIH, and it tells you, you can learn about the different herbs and botanicals that are used in Complementary and Integrative Health approaches. And it’s a free or list app from the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health. So that’s kind of cool. Love it, have it at the touch of your fingertips, right? I have. Absolutely. You know, one of the things I have, I was out in the woods the other day, and somebody asked me what a plant was. And I said, I don’t know. But let me check and they go, do you? What do you have? And I have this app called Picture this. And you can literally take a picture of it, and it tells you what Herb or what plant it is. And then it gives you like the scientific name. And it gives you do you want to add it to your garden? Do you want because, you know, I was raised by a farmer and a horticulturist. He used to I was trying to come up with the word. That’s why I was has horticulturalist. He used to teach that he was a eighth grade science teacher and he also taught horticulture. I had my dad is my teacher, I never recommend that ever. But that’s a whole nother story. We’re not are we on emotional?
Dog about it, right. But, you know, I grew up identifying plants. And he would say, and it’s been but there’s still so many that you don’t know. And I love having it at my fingertips. I always say as a social worker, I may not know the answer, but I can find the answer, right? Because it’s about connecting folks to resources and connecting each other to resources. So we’re gonna put that herbalist and we’re gonna put the picture this link in our show notes, so folks can use those. Some are free, some have added cost. And just check those out. Because I really think when we talk about emotional and mental wellness, Shannon, you know, there’s the negatives of social media and having our phones and all that. But there’s also the positive, yes. Like, I love being able to pull out my phone when I’m curious about a plant and identify it and go, Oh, okay, that’s cool. Does that. I mean, that goes towards the intellectual wellness, too, right? But it’s just, it’s my hobby. And I love it. And nowadays, if you have a hobby, there’s going to be a corresponding app.
Shannon M. 12:38
It’s a good point. And I love you know, it reminds me of the first day that we met. And I remember we were at Starbucks meeting for a manifestation Monday’s, you’re telling us about this notebook that can save and you know, I love that notebook.
Christine Gautreaux 12:51
Yes, the rocket book online.
Shannon M. 12:56
And so lady, she was telling me about the rocket book, this notebook where if you write it, all you have to do is pick the Google Drive, right pick the Google Drive at the bottom of the page. With an axe, you’ve already assigned the corresponding places that you want to send it to. And through technology, you’ll send it now again, like we were just talking about what I found through my rocket book, because I did get one is that I missed writing on physical paper. I love the way that feels, and it just feels different. I also love my handwriting. But I feel like I can read it better sometimes here than whatever I was writing in the rocket book. So maybe I needed to go back and just get more used to using it. But for Christina, do all the things that she’s done, and we bring in this technology, and I said, this woman is amazing. And that’s why I love doing this podcast, we talk about tech and Google resources. And there’s a whole encyclopedia library of information, you know,
Christine Gautreaux 13:52
great. I forgot about that. I yeah, I love my rocket books and like it. I think they’re so much fun. And, and when I remember to use them, I will say, fair warning. And you know, y’all we’re not getting paid to advertise these products. Yet, but, but that is the biggest trick to that notebook is keeping up with your pin that goes with that for me
Shannon M. 14:18
that I do have it. You know, I have my handy dandy pouch right here that Tracy, one of our guests from heart, Hughes gave me at a pan SIP party. And I think I do have my pens. I just haven’t been using my logbook. But again, that goes back to everything we’ve been talking about. Are you connected to the resources when you have the resources? Do you use them? You know, are we pivoting, when we can find out that there’s different things that we like better or that could work better? And now doing it in an updated way so we can be even more effective?
Christine Gautreaux 14:48
Right? Well, I also think when you think about it, especially the day and age we live in now there’s so many, right? Yeah, so we can get inundated with products or we can get in and David with things that work oh, this worked for me oh, this, I like what you said Shannon, like, this piece worked for me, but this piece didn’t. So it’s, we got to try it. And sometimes I get I get exposed to something or somebody will share some home and I’m like, oh, yeah, that didn’t that didn’t work. But also having that inner authority to say, just because it works for you. It didn’t work for me or Oh, wow, thanks for sharing that that really works well for me. Yeah, well, I mean, a good example, I mean, this off topic, but good example, electronic calendars. For years, I completely resisted them. And I don’t know who’s listening who may have done the same thing. Now, I could not function without mine. Because of, really, the number one thing is being able to access it from anywhere I am in the world. So when I’m traveling, but I still like a good old fashion, especially for the year calendar that I write it out at, I like to see it in different dimensions, right?
Shannon M. 16:00
Absolutely. And, and we’ve been talking about this for the past two years working on using our planners consistently. And then also having it digitally, I would like to always have everything in my phone, so I can pull it up everywhere. For me, what I love to see is stuff crossed off, you know, so when I got promoted at at Top Golf, I was talking to one of the office administrators, she said you want a whiteboard, because everybody had a whiteboard, I was like, No, I do not want to erase all of this stuff that I’m doing, I want to see it, and I want to cross it off. So I can look back and be like, I was doing a lot, I see why I was so tired, but also to record the winds, and to remember the opportunities and the ways that we could still get better, you know, so digitally, I still need to finish the completely over with the new resources that we have, especially the ones that we use between each other.
Christine Gautreaux 16:54
Right? Well, and also that is a really great thing. When you talk about collaboration, like some sometimes with different collaborators, I use different things, depending on whose comfort level and what we like or what we got, because there’s no one universal like this, is it right? This is going to solve all of it. I was just having this conversation with somebody this week, anytime somebody says this is the only way I tend to take a deep breath and take a couple of steps back. And give them the side I
Shannon M. 17:36
know you’re subconsciously said
Christine Gautreaux 17:40
maybe the in person do because you know, the only way of like,
Shannon M. 17:47
maybe you do it the way you do it. Yeah, right. Right.
Christine Gautreaux 17:51
So I think it’s something to consider, and but yes to sharing resources that work because if something worked, it’s really cool. And we might want to we might want to check into it for each other.
Shannon M. 18:04
And I think that’s a really good point, too. Because we talk about how do I do it me by myself right for myself, loving myself loving me more like our guests genebanks talks about right? But also, when you’re working with other people, how do you meet them, they’re, of course working to their level and making sure that it makes sense for everybody makes sense. For me, I also include whatever boundary that means, you know, if somebody’s trying to operate on a platform that I’m not on, well, that’s an option that’s outside of the two or three options that we have, you know, if I choose to operate through email, I prefer to keep that communication through email, if we’re talking through text and less talk through text, even if it’s both keep one conversation in one place. Because if I’m talking to 15 people in three different places, I might not email you back.
Christine Gautreaux 18:52
Okay. Let’s have that conversation. Right. Yeah, I’ve started noting people’s preferred, I asked people often What’s your preferred communication? I like that, because and I don’t always get it. Right. Right. But what I started identifying for myself is if somebody really needs to reach me, text is the way to go about it. It just it is the way my life operates. And I know some people a phone call is the preferred way, but like for you and I who are content creators, and we are often on live or we’re doing things, we can’t answer the phone during that time, right? Well, we choose not to, I know some folks that hold in this boundary about not answering the phone right why or when I am teaching a class. Definitely time I will occasionally do it is if I’ve got folks out in connection rooms and my siblings call occasionally I will answer the phone because I don’t know if I told you the Shannon but You know they’re two and a half and they have now learned how to call their TIA is what they call me by themselves.
Shannon M. 20:07
No you didn’t that’s
Christine Gautreaux 20:13
nice we showed you the other day because Tia This is how I did it. Call Tia.
Shannon M. 20:19
Oh my goodness Siri funny
Christine Gautreaux 20:25
technology I I’ve been waiting for this.
Shannon M. 20:28
So this is a thing your sister has you saved in her phone as Tia? Yeah, that’s funny.
Christine Gautreaux 20:36
Boys. You know what this was a whole big conversation because she has a lot of friends and chosen family. And I’m like I am their one blood relative aunt. And I want to claim that place. Maybe it’s just ego talking but you know, I’ve been waiting for these nibbling for a long time. So I’m like, How can I be the one true and so these boys are being raised bilingual and they’re half Hispanic and so Tia I am I am Tia that’s just you know not even to Christine. I am T Yeah, the only one
Shannon M. 21:18
no need to put the name on it. I don’t think I knew that they were half Hispanic. And I love the Spanish names when I saved my mom and my dad’s phone number and my phone is Mother’s Day, Father’s Day. Okay. Just to make it different. I like to keep my my Pinterest categories interesting. And my names and my nicknames. Interesting. So I think it’s cute that they call you Tia. Oh, yeah.
Christine Gautreaux 21:42
And they Yeah, they were they called me today. And I was actually at a business meeting on a patio. I was having an outdoor brunch business meeting. And I just had to answer real quick to tell them that I was you know, because now that they are personally calling me themselves, I feel like if at all possible I answer and even if it’s for a second say I love you and T is working so
Shannon M. 22:07
especially for conditioning, you know, when we just talk about intellectual and getting people used to how we operate. I started that with my brother, too. He lost his phone. But when he had it, okay, I will try to make sure I will answer so that he could feel like if he was going to call me that he could trust to get a response.
Christine Gautreaux 22:28
You know what talking about a cool tech resource that I may not have told you about talking about your brother. Yeah, I have this new thing. That’s a widget that my no longer teenagers as of yesterday that my adult daughter introduced me to Happy Birthday, Sammy turned 20, which is a whole nother conversation and nuts. But so they introduced me to a widget called locket loc ke T. And it is where if you have the widget on your phone, and I have the widget on my phone, we can directly send pictures to each other. So it’s not chat. It’s not social media, it just comes directly to our it’s an app widget you put on an app widget. But I will put that link in our show notes. Because for kids especially like you and your brother, you don’t have to go through you just take picture and send it to each other. So that’s been super fun with my daughter’s at college because they just whatever they’re doing, they’ll click a pic and send it to me. And so we don’t, there’s no words or anything. It’s literally just a picture. But, you know, a picture says 1000 words. So there’s ways that you can keep in touch with people talking about preferred forms of communication. What is your preferred form of communication?
Shannon M. 23:54
I honestly haven’t figured that out yet. I think that I would say probably not social media, I tried to minimize my time on social media because of everything, how it can affect you. But what I can say is that, however I started, that’s what I prefer. So if I call you and you text me back, it’s like, oh, unless of course you’re busy or you’re on a class or you’re doing something completely understandable, you know? Or if I text you in the you call me, there might be a reason that I chose the mode of communication that I picked, you know, but outside of that, I don’t know if I know yet. It kind of it kind of changes. To be honest. I’m funny. Sometimes Sometimes you could text me and I might not text you back. Sometimes you might call me and I might text you back when I’m at work like shoot, it’s been too long. Let me make sure that I reach back out and let this person know I haven’t forgotten about them. But I’m working on it. Communication is something I’m still working on.
Christine Gautreaux 24:47
Well, it’s a good thing to notice, though that like what do you like and what you don’t like because pre pandemic I loved calling people because I was in my car in traffic. And I just run it through the system and rarely Call people now. Because I work from home. And it’s it. I don’t, it’s very interesting. Like when I’m in my car, and I’m driving and you know, it’s going through the system I like I say voice, but people probably think, you know, dropped off the map last two years, which a lot of people I think is I have had this experience with how everything’s changed. But my style of communication has definitely changed to that’s an interesting thing to note. Yeah. Oh, go ahead.
Shannon M. 25:33
And I was gonna say the same thing. Since I have been driving I’ve that’s I do use that time to stack it, how we say and and make some calls as I unwind or to take the time that I know I’m already going to be in the car to have some follow up conversations. Right?
Christine Gautreaux 25:49
Yeah. I’m curious for our listeners, like, do you make calls in the car? Is that a connection time? Or do you listen to music and connect with yourself? Or is it a quiet time? Because you know, I think that’s the thing about wellness, like, what is it? What do you need?
Shannon M. 26:05
Why was the educational? You know, I listened to
Christine Gautreaux 26:09
or are you listening to women connected in wisdom podcast while you’re making
Shannon M. 26:13
the call right now? Right, whether we’re live or not, are you in your car?
Christine Gautreaux 26:20
I forgot to tell you Joe was on a road trip. I think it was last week or the week before. And he listened to he caught up. He’d been behind. He listened to like 18 of our episodes.
Shannon M. 26:32
Joe, you’re a trooper. I appreciate you so much.
Christine Gautreaux 26:39
And no, he did tell me he listened on one and a half speed. So we were talking.
Shannon M. 26:44
I’m sure we were talking. One and a half. Okay. audiobook will sound like, right.
Christine Gautreaux 26:56
You know, last season episode 60, we had the episode soul records. When we were talking about spiritual wellness with our special guests, Serena Kern. And that was talking about the Akashic records and talking about our soul contracts and talking about the whole is a fascinating episode. Right? Fascinating. And to think about as we’re co creating our life going forward every day, right? That what are we speaking? What are we saying? What are we doing? And that episode was a special request from one of our guests who had listened to a previous episode and asked a question. So we brought in an expert on Akashic records to have that conversation. It was good. He’s like, okay, learn something new.
Shannon M. 27:46
And I love thinking about that, you know, it’s what I think about a lot when I think about the podcast, the book che little glow, working all these things is things aren’t by mistake. You know, there’s crazy things that happen. We again, balance holding both the grief and the gratitude. So there’s things that we might question and have to work through, of course, you know, but to know that your soul has a blueprint. And now the Shannon Mitchell who used to say, okay, Dad, I’m going down to school supplies, I’ll you know, is now talking about having a planner, why that makes sense. So it’s not just crazy things or having to take somebody out saying, Hey, this is what I’ll give you this much money for. It’s what sets your soul on fire, what aligns with what you should be doing, and how that makes you feel in your boundaries and how it helps you balance your physical and emotional wellness.
Christine Gautreaux 28:39
You know, you’re talking about that makes me think. We talked to two guests who spoke to that this last season, we talked to Jennifer Oladipo, who was talking about financial wellness, and we talked to Sarah, Dr. Sarah Brown, who was talking about occupational wellness. And remember when we had that conversation about purpose, and she was talking about our purpose is what things that light our soul on fire, that we’re uplifting other people in the world, and we’re good at it, right? Yeah. And that episode, just had me smiling for weeks because I realized you know, what, nobody shocked, that knows me. If you if you don’t know me yet, and you’re a new listener, welcome. But nobody who knows me is going to be shocked. You know, one of my superpowers is connecting people and having a podcast called Women connected. And literally connecting amazing women across this globe is my purpose. And it just when Dr. Brown spoke to that and about getting paid to live in your purpose, right, was powerful,
Shannon M. 29:55
so excited. And it’s interesting because to say that right good. You can pay to work in your purpose when I think about the psychology of economics, because that’s the thing in business and finance right? Before I may have felt like those two things were separate, it was your purpose. And then it’s where you make money. But again, if we’re going to be philanthropists, if we’re going to be helping all of these people, you have to be able to afford to do that. I’m not going to be able to help pay somebody’s college tuition for four years. If I’m two months behind on my car note, well, let’s not say that maybe I will be able to, but as far as sustainability, right, and as far as being healthy, it wouldn’t be healthy for me to do that. So we’re gonna have to make some money from somewhere. I would love for it to be the place that says my soul on fire.
Christine Gautreaux 30:42
Right. Well, I think that’s interesting, Shannon, that you bring that up, because I think a lot of times as women we are we were taught that if you loved it, or if it was, quote, unquote, women’s work, you didn’t get paid for that. Right? I think things that, like, I think about artists, I think about healers, I think about ministers, I think about that. Often, they’re asked to contribute their work for free, or they’re, you know, to give it in service and not in service, because I think we all need to have a service component. But it’s often asked of women to do free labor, and especially women of color versus versus men. I mean, when did they ask when to show up? For free? I’m sure it sometimes happens. So don’t get me wrong, but I think disproportionally it is people are asked to especially women are asked to give their labor more for free. I mean, when you think about women who work at home, right? And they may have a career and a job. And then they have their other full time job. Right. The management of the household and the chauffeuring if they have kids or people that their caregiving all the, you know, I’ll have to look, I read an old article years ago, that if women got paid for every task they did if it was divvied up, right, Chef, maid, chauffeur, household manager, bookkeeper and accountant,
Shannon M. 32:17
like scheduling, inventory, personal assistant, purchasing, gardener, cleaning services, personal assistants, all of those things, all those things together.
Christine Gautreaux 32:33
Yeah, well, you know, thinking about that, it’s Jennifer Oladipo, in financial wellness talked about name, your number, right? Namely, number
Shannon M. 32:45
and the great resource of being able to calculate what your take home pay is, after taxes based on what the salary is. And that’s very important, right, is great to be salary, after taxes. After expenses, what’s going to be leftover, what’s realistic, you know, and just like we were talking about with the book of view, what do you need in that work environment so that you can be successful, so you can continue to grow? And if you’re getting the job to make a certain amount of money, let’s make sure it makes sense. And that’s actually what’s going to be hitting the bank account.
Christine Gautreaux 33:19
That was the take home Paycheck Calculator. Yeah, that was that was an incredible resource. I love revisiting these resources and and looking at incredibly talented women, but also the amount of resources they shared with us listeners, if you’re listening live or on replay, just know that every week we put show notes in that have links to everything that our guests recommend, or things that they’re sharing with us. And so if you ever go take a chance take a take a few moments to go look at women connected in wisdom podcast.com and you’ll see some an incredible list of resources that are or click through links. Yeah, so
Shannon M. 34:05
and I love it because it can be specific, you know, when I used to wonder, well, where do I start reading my Bible you know, once it was well look in a category that you’re struggling with if it’s finances if it’s faith, if this relationship you can look it up based on that and that’s how our resources are you know, if it’s financial if a spiritual if it’s emotional look in that category yet. We have a list of amazing ladies again, Episode 65 Now, and so at least one of them right to get in contact with
Christine Gautreaux 34:37
well, you know, the one that comes to top of mind for me, because it was so recent was Claire bromo and the universal needs. Great. So we talked about that two weeks ago on episode 63. But Claire was one of our first listeners who gave us pushback and said move over Maslow. I think that was the hashtag and gave us the reasons why we need to expand our intellectual wellness around meeting universal needs. That was such a cool conversation.
Shannon M. 35:12
And so important I was. So we were talking about listening to audiobooks and what we use our time in the car for right. And I’m supposed to be reading our chapters, I said, I’m not reading any books. And I started listening to another audio book, started listening to Stacey Abrams, a minority leader, and she was talking about money raising money, and how a lot of times the advice may be to reach out to friends and family, but how if you’re a minority leader, that might not be an option. And she said, it might actually be a cruel joke. And I’m questioning the cruel part as I’m literally laughing out loud at her talking about reaching out to people for money and not because it’s a laughingstock, if somebody’s in a position, and they feel a certain type of way about that. But just because I know that right now, like we’ve talked about what the sandwich generation, we see a lot of people taking care of their parents, a lot of people taking care of children and children that may not be theirs. And a lot of times in the minority community, that is the situation. So to be able to get it under wraps and to raise our price and know what our numbers are, and know what type of environments we need to be successful. So we can set healthy boundaries and know what we can say yes or no to those things or while of doing this podcast with us as ladies and getting these resources out to everybody.
Christine Gautreaux 36:31
Absolutely. Can I ask a clarifying question, my friend? Of course, are you listening to the lead from the outside book or her our time is now lead from the outside lead from the outside?
Shannon M. 36:46
I know you’ve been talking about her books, I’m like, I want to make sure just like we were talking about with Maslow’s that I’m, I’m making the right references. And of course, there’s no way to be perfect, you know, but we have a platform and as international podcasters. You know, yeah, want to make sure we’re given the most up to date information with the right perspective to so that we can make it as actionable as possible.
Christine Gautreaux 37:12
I love that. I love that a lot. Yeah. And I love everything that she’s written. So I haven’t gotten through all her books yet. But Stacey Abrams, excited.
Shannon M. 37:23
Yeah, one of the things she was talking about, has me thinking about financial wellness, you know, just like me once a college great academic success and tenacity, right, but the financial literacy wasn’t there. So with me about to turn 30 Next year, I have a goal of being out of debt, and I shouldn’t be there early, right. What are you raising your hand and say something? It’s like out the camera.
Christine Gautreaux 37:48
I just had this incredible lean forward, holy cow moment. Okay. Are you ready?
Shannon M. 37:56
I think let me put my foot down. Let’s ask Stacey
Christine Gautreaux 37:59
Abrams to write our forward.
Shannon M. 38:03
State Stacey Abrams, would you mind? Are you going to ask her right? I’ll ask her. Right. Yeah. Would you afford writing our forward for women connected in wisdom podcast, we love connecting wisdom, women’s stories, resources, and honored, we would be honored for you to be part of our book, the first specifically. And we can reach out to her to reach out to her email as senators snippet of our audio. Love it. But yeah, I’m glad you said that. I was genuinely thinking that before the pie, and I think we’ve talked about it a couple of times. So let’s put it out there. See what happens as to be the second black panther. That didn’t happen, but maybe this will not happen. So I think it’ll really help my staff so they know that dreams come true. They didn’t respond. It’s okay though. I have a podcast dream still come through.
Christine Gautreaux 38:54
I love that when the movie was coming out. Is that what? Yep,
Shannon M. 38:58
I sure did. I email somebody. I think I had direct message to somebody.
Christine Gautreaux 39:03
I love that. Oh, my goodness. I love it so much. Right? I you know what that tickles me about is like just going for your dreams. Right? Do
Shannon M. 39:16
it. Are they gonna bite you? They’re not gonna come through the screen and bite you.
Christine Gautreaux 39:20
They might say no. But you never know. Right?
Shannon M. 39:25
Yes. Yes. And ask them for the opportunity is how have those a lot of relationships how I’ve stayed connected to the women who have affected my life so much, you know, so? Yeah, I think in even since I’ve been a little kid, that was the biggest thing a lot of people are afraid to ask. I was oh, I always wanted to be brave enough to hear no, I would rather you told me no, but at least you answered it. You didn’t just ignore me, you know. But yeah, a lot of times it’ll lead to more than expected.
Christine Gautreaux 39:55
Well, and I think about that, for you know, as an embodied coach. and often helping people to launch their programs or their dreams or their purpose, right? Or write their books. I have them practice, like practice in the mirror practice with me or like speaking it into reality? Or how would you say that? Or how would you ask her? Because sometimes I mean, you and I probably are labeled on the extrovert scale.
Shannon M. 40:27
I’m actually like, in the
Christine Gautreaux 40:27
middle, maybe an ambivert. I’m Yes. I’m pretty much an ambivert, too. But when people look at us, they think, Oh, they’re extroverted, they’re brave, they could do that, right. But part of the reason I think they see that is because we do crazy stuff like that, we’re gonna ask that question, or we’re gonna go, and we’re gonna say, all they can say is no, you know. So I think, I think that’s one of the things is practicing, like, practice in the mirror, see how, and lately there’s been a lot of stuff on social media about, it’s okay to suck. Like, it’s okay to be bad at it or awkward, because if you’ve never done it before, and I talked to my now, no longer a teenager, daughter, I’m having a little grief and loss. I’m holding the gratitude and the grief, y’all. It’s a new transitional stage as a mom to no longer have teenagers to. They’re grown. They’re grown. And I’m so proud of them. I talk I talk with Sammy about this sometimes, because she’s a stand up bass player. And often she doesn’t want to play a piece of music in front of somebody until it’s perfected, right? And I’m like, Well, of course, you’re gonna suck when you get a new piece of music, or, you know, if you were a child prodigy that might be different, but most people are not, right, you have to practice to get something. And you’ll if you go back, if you’re new listener jars, and you go back to Episode One, so the challenge of the day, listen to him.
We have two people, I should listen to all our episodes, Joe and sativa. So yeah, I have, you see, like, there’s places that we get better, there’s still places to improve. And I think that’s the thing is we keep showing up and we keep doing it. I think that’s true with anything in life, right.
Shannon M. 42:25
And I think music helped me with that. Like, I didn’t realize, I don’t think until recently, honestly how much the skill of sight reading helped me, you get a new piece of music, and you look at it for a second, you might work through it a little bit as an individual as a section, all the flutes because flutes are their best instrument, so we’ll leave it at the flutes, okay. Or the entire band, the rest of those instruments might be in there with you.
Christine Gautreaux 42:54
We, we say that we only had pushback from Claire now now she’s like,
Shannon M. 43:02
we talked about facts on the podcast, you know, so going through all of it. And being able to bump through it, you know, this part might be easy, and something that you’re used to. But of course, the person who puts together the music is going to make the song interesting. So there’s gonna be part of it, that’s more challenging, but having a confidence to try it and then get better second time and get better the third time, and then make a decision if you want to play it or not, is like the systems in a business or putting the team together or putting a logo together how we’re working on you know. So I love that your daughters are all about excellence and doing stuff in a great way. And that she wants to put forth the best presentation and the the performance. But outside of that, I feel like once you let go of being perfect, it’s unstoppable when when you know how to pick up things quickly and just try it.
Christine Gautreaux 43:55
One of the things I often tell my clients and my colleagues is, don’t let your perfect get in the way of good enough. And it’s not that we’re not striving for excellence. But often, especially as women, we get caught up in the perfectionism part, and we feel like if we’re not perfect, people won’t love us or we won’t, you know, we won’t be accepted or we won’t this or that. And I think oftentimes we make ourselves sick with perfectionism. And you know, I think taking incremental steps and and making you know, we talked about last week just with Shannon and Willow when we were talking about environmental wellness, and we were talking about compassionate actions, right? When we talk about things to support the earth, that we don’t have to be perfect but we’re making steps we’re making incremental steps and compassionate actions and and those can all make a difference.
Shannon M. 44:51
Yes, I saw a few turtles not in person but on TV this past week, and thought about Shannon Willow and her artwork. With the words and the and part of the flow and thinking about the, the elements and the purity of fire, and it’s interesting when she was saying that I was thinking about what I’ve done a few times, you know, made list or it might be different things for different situations, but burning things away, and you know, the finger at and the release of that, I think I’m gonna do something like that for my birthday.
Christine Gautreaux 45:26
You know, I’m all about creating ritual and ceremony. So, you know, hit me up, my friend, I’ll help you do a birthday one.
Shannon M. 45:33
Yeah, I would love to do that. I need to I’m trying to figure out what I want to do for my birthday in Georgia, so we can definitely talk about it.
Christine Gautreaux 45:39
Yes, please. Yes. Let me know how I can support you on that. Absolutely. So it is hard to believe we are almost to the top of the hour already. What is your wisdom and action for this week?
Shannon M. 45:56
Oh, you know what, I’m gonna say, I’m gonna write this down. Hashtag. Define it for yourself. Hmm. for yourself. And I mean this in a couple of different ways, right? Because we’re working on our definitions. So we talked about fighting perfectionism, we are top 10% of the world. We are episode 65. And we still are working on our definitions. That’s something that as perfectionist, we would have never even had an episode. Yeah, if we didn’t have the definitions, right? So define it for yourself. So definitions for that, right. But also just thinking about life and what we want it to be me reading my book and stopping reading other people’s books. So sometimes our goals that we had for ourselves have to stop so we can actually reach the goals that are in the right priority. So that’s my hashtag was an action this week. What about you find that for yourself?
Christine Gautreaux 46:51
Who my hashtag this week will be rest, hashtag rest. I like that. And because, you know, I think we’re so busy going and doing that one of the things in all these dimensions of wellness is remembering to rest and breathe. And so I’m going to expand it, you know, I gotta have more than one thing, because hashtag rest in breathe. And, you know, that’s while doing all the other things. But I think it is important that we take those deep breaths, and that we remember to take care of ourselves.
Shannon M. 47:32
I love it. Yes. And that’s been the interesting thing, too. You know, as we get used to what normal looks like for us what work looks like and how to balance it. Rest as part of it. We’re working on scheduling, scheduling it into the schedule, and that just expecting to be here 52 weeks out of the year, indefinitely. So I definitely hold space with you on that, too. Anything else you want to add before we wrap it up?
Christine Gautreaux 47:59
I think that was good. I am just so grateful to our listeners, I am grateful for you. And all you know, as we look back over the seasons, and we look back over the episodes like incredible guest and more come in y’all like we were doing pre interviews, and we’re scheduling in November. We like it. We’re
Shannon M. 48:21
about to be a next year. So stay tuned.
Christine Gautreaux 48:24
So we have some incredible folks coming your way and just grateful for the interaction. Find us on social media. If you haven’t followed us on women connected in wisdom podcast, we’re on Facebook, we are on Instagram, we are on YouTube and just reach out to us and if you have a guest that you think would be awesome, you know, refer them to us. We’ll- we’ll do a coffee and chat with them and see about getting them on the show. And we really it we started the show to uplift women’s voices who often are marginalized or who often don’t get heard. And I am just I’m just in awe of the people we’ve met so far and the people who are coming. Yes. So grateful to be connected to you my friend. Yes, so
Shannon M. 49:17
thankful as well. Thank you so much. Okay, ladies, we will see you next season next week Live at Five. And don’t forget, be well be wise and the whole we’ll talk to you soon. See you soon.
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